Tank Talk Episode 008 – Should I Remove My Tank Now Or Later?

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In this episode, Teddy talks with a potential client about the best of plan of action for removing their underground oil tank. They are not selling but are concerned that it could start leaking one day. Teddy explains why they shouldn’t wait and what the project consists of.

Questions answered in this episode…

  1. How much is it to remove an underground 550 gallon oil tank that is easily accessible? 1:40
  2. I’m not selling, should I remove the tank now or wait? 2:30
  3. How quickly can you schedule the project once I sign on? 3:20
  4. Does the NJDEP get involved? 4:00
  5. How do you close out a case # with NJDEP? 4:20

Speaker 2:

Just wanted a ballpark figure on a tank removal.

Teddy:

Sure. Yeah, I can help you with that. Where’s the tank located on the property?

Speaker 2:

Between the house and the driveway.

Teddy:

Between the house and the driveway. Okay. Is it a 550 gallon tank?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s 550,

Teddy:

Is it actively being used or was there-

Speaker 2:

No, it’s been deactivated for a couple of years now.

Teddy:

Okay. Was it filled in place with sand anything like that or foam?

Speaker 2:

No. It’s got about 50 gallons of residual oil.

Teddy:

Okay, perfect. That’s better. Sometimes the ones with the previously filled sand can be more expensive to remove, because it’s not cleaned out properly, so that’s good. So yeah, I’m looking at the property. Yeah, I see it. Okay. So it looks like there’s a tree when you first pull in the driveway to the left?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. The tank is to the left of the driveway.

Teddy:

To the left of the driveway, okay. Yeah. That’s easily accessible. Yeah, so something like that, pretty basic, typically how it works is we go to the town of Highland Park. We get the permits for you. Once they’re approved, we come out. We dig down to the top of the tank, cut it open, take all the oil out, wipe it down completely, and then we pull it. Once it’s out, we’ll have the town come do their visual inspection. This all’s going to happen in the same day. As long as their visual inspection passes, there’s no sampling required. We’ll be able to backfill the hole and take the tank away. And you’ll get a certificate from the township once we submit to them the disposal documents for the tank and the oil. So something like that, you’re looking at 1400 bucks. The only additional costs would be the permits. I think there’s $75 in Highland Park. And if there’s any water in the tank, we charge a dollar a gallon to dispose of water.

Speaker 2:

Sounds pretty good to me actually. Yeah, I’ve been sitting on a tank for 20 years. We used it for 20 out of the 25 years. And then a couple years ago, but just got paranoid, had them put in a tank in the house and disconnected that one.

Teddy:

So yeah, you have any plans of selling in the near future or?

Speaker 2:

No, but I’m afraid someday it’s just going to rot through and leak. I’m uphill from the river. The oil will float downhill and I’ll be responsible for everybody from here to New Brunswick.

Teddy:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, here’s the thing. So you definitely want to remove it. And the reason is because yeah, it will eventually leak. All these tanks, they’re steel; they’re going to corrode. So if it’s not leaking today, it could start in a year or two years. They will leak. And the best part about it is if you pull it today, let’s say worst case scenario, there is a leak, a lot of people think that that starts the ball rolling. They fear that if they pull it, then they’re going to open up a can of worms and they have to clean it up.

Teddy:

With residential sites, since you’re not selling right now, you can pull that out. And that’s when my recommendation would be. And if you don’t have the funds to go forward, you can wait until you have the funds. Nobody’s going to come after you to make you do the cleanup. The only thing is if you want to sell the property, then you have to do the cleanup. But other than that it’s good because you’re getting the source out, so it can’t get worse. So that’s definitely recommended to pull it.

Speaker 2:

When would be the earliest we could schedule something like this?

Teddy:

So I could email you out a proposal today. When you sign on, everything is electronic. You just click approve, type your name in. We’ll send you the link for the deposit and then we overnight the permit application to Highland Park. They typically take about two weeks to approve it. They are still open, Highland Park. Some of the towns have slowed down because of COVID, but Highland Park is still actively open from last time we checked. So I would figure two to three weeks.

Speaker 2:

Not bad. Well does the state have to approve it? You told me I’d get stuff from the municipality, but does the state have to approve anything? Give me any kind of certification that the tanks removed?

Teddy:

So as long as the township visual inspection passes and there’s no holes in the tank, there’s no visible signs of a discharge, the DEP won’t get involved. If it fails inspection, then you’re going to get what’s called a case number. That’s from the state. Once you have a case number from the state, there’s two ways to close it out. Either one, you sample the excavation to prove to them that yes, there’s been a discharge, but it’s below the cleanup standards. We don’t have to go any further. Or B, we have to remediate, which means we have to take out that soil that’s dirty, sample to make sure we got it all out and then replace it. So those are the two ways to close the case number out. And that’s the only time you’ll get involved with a DEP. So if the first inspection passes, you’re good to go.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Thank you.

Teddy:

All right. You’re welcome.

Speaker 2:

Bye-bye.

Teddy:

Bye-bye.

Tank Talk Episode 007 – My Tank Leaked! Now What?

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n the episode, Teddy talks with a client about what the next steps are since their oil tank failed the township inspection. Simple Tank grabbed a soil sample when the tank was removed and the results were 35,000 PPM. This is way above the cleanup standards of 5,100 PPM. We gave them some options with open ended contracts and also a fixed price cleanup contract.

Questions answered in this episode…

  1. What line items are variable in the open ended soil remediation contract? 1:15

  2. Can you give me a price from the one sample you took on the day you removed the tank? 3:45

  3. How far do you think the contamination traveled? 5:10

  4. How much should a groundwater investigation cost? 6:10

  5. If the initial groundwater samples fails, will we be charged every time you return to sample? 7:25

  6. What is the worst case scenario cost for the cleanup? 8:30

  7. How does a soil delineation work to get a fixed cost? 9:50

  8. Does the state certified subsurface evaluator work for you? 11:00

  9. Does the township have to do another inspection? 12:05

  10. How quickly can you get the final report that needs to be reviewed by NJDEP? 13:25

  11. Can we pay at closing? 14:00
    Is there an additional fee to pay at closing? 15:00

  12. What are the odds of hitting groundwater in Metuchen? 17:20

Tank Talk Episode 006 – Five Star Review From Seller And Realtor

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In the episode, Teddy talks with a client about what the next steps are since their oil tank failed the township inspection. Simple Tank grabbed a soil sample when the tank was removed and the results were 35,000 PPM. This is way above the cleanup standards of 5,100 PPM. We gave them some options with open ended contracts and also a fixed price cleanup contract.

Questions answered in this episode…

  1. What line items are variable in the open ended soil remediation contract? 1:15
  2. Can you give me a price from the one sample you took on the day you removed the tank? 3:45
  3. How far do you think the contamination traveled? 5:10
  4. How much should a groundwater investigation cost? 6:10
  5. If the initial groundwater samples fails, will we be charged every time you return to sample? 7:25
  6. What is the worst case scenario cost for the cleanup? 8:30
  7. How does a soil delineation work to get a fixed cost? 9:50
  8. Does the state certified subsurface evaluator work for you? 11:00
  9. Does the township have to do another inspection? 12:05
  10. How quickly can you get the final report that needs to be reviewed by NJDEP? 13:25
  11. Can we pay at closing? 14:00
  12. Is there an additional fee to pay at closing? 15:00
  13. What are the odds of hitting groundwater in Metuchen? 17:20

Tank Talk Episode 005 – Homeowner Getting Ripped Off by Another Tank Contractor

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In the episode, Teddy talks with a client about her residential gas tank that was removed by another contractor. When the tank was removed, the contractor pressured her into signing a contract for a soil remediation. She gave him a $5,700.00 deposit. After he left her home, she called our office to get a second opinion. Since the contractor didn’t take any samples when he removed the tank, we recommended to mobilize to the site to delineate the soils to determine how bad the leak was.

During our investigation, we found ZERO contamination. We sent one sample to the lab to confirm and the sample came back ND (non-detect). Since this a residential gas tank that was previously used to fill up school buses that she use to drive, we needed to get a LSRP involved.

In this call, I gave her an update on where we stood with the project.

Questions answered in this episode…

  1. What happens when the soil sample taken after the gas tank was removed comes back clean from the lab? :35 Seconds
  2. What are the next steps after getting a ND reading from the lab when we have an open case number? 1:06
  3. Can the previous contractor keep my $5,700 deposit? 2:50

Tank Talk Episode 004 – Real estate wholesaler has a deal with a previously filled oil tank on the property. Buyer wants to protect himself and seller wont do anything about it!

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Questions answered in this episode…

  1. How much do you charge for a soil investigation with a guarantee? :53 seconds
  2. Should the buyer pull the tank before closing or perform a soil investigation with a GeoProbe? 1:53
  3. How quickly can you perform a soil investigation? 1:59
  4. Can you do the cleanup and get paid at closing? 2:30
  5. How much damage is done to the property during the soil investigation? 2:40

Soil Testing? What kind of soil testing is right for you?

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Welcome to another informative podcast! Today, we’re delving into the world of soil testing, an essential aspect of ensuring the safety and compliance of your property, especially if you have or have had an underground oil tank. There’s often confusion surrounding soil testing, as there are different types and contexts to consider. Let’s break it down together.

At Simple Tank Services, LLC, we’re committed to providing you with comprehensive solutions for your tank removal and soil remediation needs. When it comes to soil testing, there are four primary types that you should be aware of. Each type serves a specific purpose and helps determine the appropriate course of action.

**1. Existing Tank Soil Testing:**
If you have an active or inactive underground oil tank still in place or was previously filled, and you’re concerned about leaks or discharges, soil testing around the existing tank is crucial. Our skilled team performs soil testing by probing around the exterior of the tank, usually about 7 feet below the surface. This process involves taking three borings around each side of the tank, and these samples are then sent to a certified lab for analysis. If contamination is discovered during this process, we will delineate the contamination to determine a fixed price for soil remediation.

**2. Grab Samples:**
When we remove your underground oil tank, any signs of a discharge such as holes, stained soils, or an odor warrant a grab sample. This entails collecting one sample from the bottom of the excavation. The sample is sent to the lab for a preliminary assessment of contamination levels. This assessment informs the options available for closing your case, which could include proving that contamination is below cleanup standards or undertaking a remediation process.

**3. Post Excavation Soil Samples, NJDEP Close Out:**
After a soil remediation, which involves removing contaminated soil and replacing it with certified clean fill, post excavation soil samples are taken. These samples include sidewall samples and a sample from the bottom of the excavation. Additionally, a sample may be taken from the pipeline connected to the oil tank. This step ensures that the site has been successfully remediated and meets safety standards.

**4. Sampling for NJDEP Close Out:**
We can perform a soil investigation with oversight from our subsurface evaluator to close out your open NJDEP case number. Five to six sample will be required to be extracted from the previous tank grave. All samples must be below the NJDEP cleanup criteria in order to complete a report requesting a No Further Action letter from NJDEP.

When considering soil testing, factors such as the tank’s status, any existing grab sample results, and the scope of remediation play a role in determining the most appropriate type of soil testing for your situation. At Simple Tank Services, we prioritize providing you with accurate and actionable information, guiding you through the testing process and beyond.

Got questions about soil testing or need guidance on which type of testing is right for you? Reach out to us! Our team, led by Teddy, is ready to assist you in ensuring the health and compliance of your property. Contact us at 732-965-8265 for expert insights and reliable solutions.

Stay tuned for more engaging podcasts and valuable insights from Simple Tank Services, LLC!

Tank Talk Episode 003 – We Just Found A Tank! Do I Have To Wait Before I Can List The House For Sale?

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In This Episode, Teddy Saves A Potential Client $250 By Doing A “Virtual” Oil Tank Sweep While On The Phone. She Was Inquiring About Her Sister’s Home Where A Potential Oil Tank Was Discovered During An Appraisal.

Questions Answered in this episode.

1. We just found a tank, can I still put my house on the market or should I wait until it’s out? 1:28
2. How much will this oil tank removal cost me? 2:30
3. If there is a leak, do you handle all the paperwork with the state? 6:25

Transcript Below!

Speaker 1:
Hello?

Teddy:
Yes.

Speaker 1:
Hi. I’m sorry. I work for the council of Teaneck, not that it has anything to do with what I’m about to ask you. But somebody just called in about a permit and that transferred from down. I noticed your number. A question I have for you is do you remove oil tanks?

Teddy:
Yes, 100%. That’s what we do.

Speaker 1:
Okay. Do you have like approximate prices? Obviously I know depends on the size, but what else would be factored into that?

Teddy:
It’s really the location of the tank. So is it is an underground or above ground, the tank?

Speaker 1:
Underground.

Teddy:
Where’s it located on the property? Is it front, back, sides?

Speaker 1:
The back, between a garage, which is separated from the house, and the back of the house.

Teddy:
Okay. What does the address? I’m going to try and look it up on Google, real quick.

Speaker 1:
Seventh Street.

Teddy:
And that’s in Teaneck?

Speaker 1:
Yeah.

Teddy:
Okay, perfect. I’m looking at the house right now. It looks like brick on the bottom and white on top?

Speaker 1:
Yes. Aluminum siding.

Teddy:
Yep. So you go down the driveway on the left. It’s in the driveway or it’s in the back of the house?

Speaker 1:
It’s in the back of the house. If you go up that driveway, toward the garage.

Teddy:
Yep.

Speaker 1:
It’s between the garage and the end of the house. In that area.

Teddy:
Okay. And was that tank ever filled in place? Or does it have oil in it?

Speaker 1:
It has oil in it. It is still being used right now.

Teddy:
And what’s the reason for removing it?

Speaker 1:
I’m trying to sell the house.

Teddy:
Okay. I have another option for you, that you may want to consider. It’d be a little bit more cost effective.

Speaker 1:
Okay.

Teddy:
We could come in there and we could probe around that tank, and if I could prove that the soil is clean, we can offer you an extended warranty that would cover you up to $150,000 in potential cleanup costs. What we’re finding is that, buyers are really loving this. It’s basically like an insurance product. It’s $59 a month and it’s transferable to the new owner.

Speaker 1:
Okay. To be honest with you, I did have the soil tested and the tank tested, back in November and it did come up clean.

Teddy:
Okay.

Speaker 1:
But you know, a lot of people, I understand would rather not have the tank underground.

Teddy:
Yeah.

Speaker 1:
And I’m just trying to find out how much it would be to remove it.

Teddy:
So the tank pull itself is about 1600 bucks, in the backyard, that’s what you’d be looking at roughly. But then you’ve got to figure, are you going to convert to gas? Are you going to put a new one above the ground? What are you going to do for a heating source?

Speaker 1:
I was going to leave it up to the new owners.

Teddy:
Yeah. The problem is you’re not going to be able to sell the property like that without a heating source, because they won’t be able to get a mortgage without a heating source.

Speaker 1:
I got you. Okay.

Teddy:
Do you know what I mean? So now you’re looking at, you could be spending close to four or five grand on the low end, between a new tank, pulling that tank. So it gets very costly, that’s why I was saying, we charge 600 to come out to sample it. We would have to do our own investigation. And once I prove that it’s clean, it’s basically 59 bucks a month. That’s very reasonable. And like I said, most buyers are okay with that because it’s basically covering them up to $150,000 in potential losses.

Speaker 1:
Okay.

Teddy:
But you’d have to come in and do your own survey?

Speaker 1:
I would, yeah. We have to use our own equipment. We charge 600 for that service, and then within four or five days, I could come out and do it, and then I could then offer you the program.

Teddy:
Okay. And that would be $59 a month? And then the new owners could have to be transferred and they could remove it?

Speaker 1:
Yeah, exactly. If they want to remove it, they can remove it. If there are any claims … Once they remove it, they hire us to remove it. If we remove it and find that there’s the leak, then they’re covered what that plan, up to 150 grand.

Speaker 1:
There’s a small deductible. If there’s a claim, it’s a $1,500 deductible and then they be covered up to 150 grand, so it’s a very extensive coverage. It’s the best type of warranty on the market right now. There are no loopholes where we don’t cover our clients. We’ve been doing these extended warranties for years. If you check us out online, you’ll see our reviews. We have over 212 Google reviews, with a 4.8 rating.

Speaker 1:
So, if you’re interested in that, I think that’s your most cost effective option. Or if you want us to pull it, we can pull it too. Like I said, you’re looking at 1600 and then roughly 2,500 to put a new tank in, if you wanted to put a new tank in.

Teddy:
I got you. Okay. Well, thank you. Let me think about it. I just want to make sure, your number is (732) 965-8035?

Speaker 1:
Yes. That’s our direct line. Yep.

Teddy:
Okay.

Speaker 1:
And your name is?

Teddy:
My name is Teddy.

Speaker 1:
Teddy? Okay. Thank you.

Teddy:
All right. You’re welcome. Thanks.

Tank Talk Episode 002 – My Oil Tank Leaked And I Am Not Happy With The Contractor Who Removed It! What Are My Options?

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In this episode, Teddy talks with a potential real estate investor client who was referred by the City of Newark. She had her tank removed by another contractor and was not happy with how it was handled.

These are the questions answered!

1. Can you help with soil remediation?
2. Will you be able to tell if groundwater is impacted with your investigation?
3. How much of a deposit do you need for the soil investigation to determine a fixed price?
4. How fast can you schedule the investigation?
5.What happens after I sign the e-contract?

Tank Talk Episode 001 – Removal or Protection Plan. What’s the best option to sell a house with an underground oil tank?

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These are the questions answered in this podcast.

1. Do you remove oil tanks? Do you have an approximate price?
2. I had the soil tested already, do you have to test it again for Simple Guard?
3. Can I remove the tank and sell the house with no heating source, let the buyers deal with it?
4. How much do you charge to investigate the soils around my oil tank?
5. How much is Simple Guard per month?
6. Does Simple Guard transfer to new homeowner? 7. Is there a deductible for Simple Guard if there is a claim?
8. How much to install a new above ground oil tank?

Transcript Below!

Speaker 1:
Hello?

Teddy:
Yes.

Speaker 1:
Hi. I’m sorry. I work for the council of Teaneck, not that it has anything to do with what I’m about to ask you. But somebody just called in about a permit and that transferred from down. I noticed your number. A question I have for you is do you remove oil tanks?

Teddy:
Yes, 100%. That’s what we do.

Speaker 1:
Okay. Do you have like approximate prices? Obviously I know depends on the size, but what else would be factored into that?

Teddy:
It’s really the location of the tank. So is it is an underground or above ground, the tank?

Speaker 1:
Underground.

Teddy:
Where’s it located on the property? Is it front, back, sides?

Speaker 1:
The back, between a garage, which is separated from the house, and the back of the house.

Teddy:
Okay. What does the address? I’m going to try and look it up on Google, real quick.

Speaker 1:
Seventh Street.

Teddy:
And that’s in Teaneck?

Speaker 1:
Yeah.

Teddy:
Okay, perfect. I’m looking at the house right now. It looks like brick on the bottom and white on top?

Speaker 1:
Yes. Aluminum siding.

Teddy:
Yep. So you go down the driveway on the left. It’s in the driveway or it’s in the back of the house?

Speaker 1:
It’s in the back of the house. If you go up that driveway, toward the garage.

Teddy:
Yep.

Speaker 1:
It’s between the garage and the end of the house. In that area.

Teddy:
Okay. And was that tank ever filled in place? Or does it have oil in it?

Speaker 1:
It has oil in it. It is still being used right now.

Teddy:
And what’s the reason for removing it?

Speaker 1:
I’m trying to sell the house.

Teddy:
Okay. I have another option for you, that you may want to consider. It’d be a little bit more cost effective.

Speaker 1:
Okay.

Teddy:
We could come in there and we could probe around that tank, and if I could prove that the soil is clean, we can offer you an extended warranty that would cover you up to $150,000 in potential cleanup costs. What we’re finding is that, buyers are really loving this. It’s basically like an insurance product. It’s $59 a month and it’s transferable to the new owner.

Speaker 1:
Okay. To be honest with you, I did have the soil tested and the tank tested, back in November and it did come up clean.

Teddy:
Okay.

Speaker 1:
But you know, a lot of people, I understand would rather not have the tank underground.

Teddy:
Yeah.

Speaker 1:
And I’m just trying to find out how much it would be to remove it.

Teddy:
So the tank pull itself is about 1600 bucks, in the backyard, that’s what you’d be looking at roughly. But then you’ve got to figure, are you going to convert to gas? Are you going to put a new one above the ground? What are you going to do for a heating source?

Speaker 1:
I was going to leave it up to the new owners.

Teddy:
Yeah. The problem is you’re not going to be able to sell the property like that without a heating source, because they won’t be able to get a mortgage without a heating source.

Speaker 1:
I got you. Okay.

Teddy:
Do you know what I mean? So now you’re looking at, you could be spending close to four or five grand on the low end, between a new tank, pulling that tank. So it gets very costly, that’s why I was saying, we charge 600 to come out to sample it. We would have to do our own investigation. And once I prove that it’s clean, it’s basically 59 bucks a month. That’s very reasonable. And like I said, most buyers are okay with that because it’s basically covering them up to $150,000 in potential losses.

Speaker 1:
Okay.

Teddy:
But you’d have to come in and do your own survey?

Speaker 1:
I would, yeah. We have to use our own equipment. We charge 600 for that service, and then within four or five days, I could come out and do it, and then I could then offer you the program.

Teddy:
Okay. And that would be $59 a month? And then the new owners could have to be transferred and they could remove it?

Speaker 1:
Yeah, exactly. If they want to remove it, they can remove it. If there are any claims … Once they remove it, they hire us to remove it. If we remove it and find that there’s the leak, then they’re covered what that plan, up to 150 grand.

Speaker 1:
There’s a small deductible. If there’s a claim, it’s a $1,500 deductible and then they be covered up to 150 grand, so it’s a very extensive coverage. It’s the best type of warranty on the market right now. There are no loopholes where we don’t cover our clients. We’ve been doing these extended warranties for years. If you check us out online, you’ll see our reviews. We have over 212 Google reviews, with a 4.8 rating.

Speaker 1:
So, if you’re interested in that, I think that’s your most cost effective option. Or if you want us to pull it, we can pull it too. Like I said, you’re looking at 1600 and then roughly 2,500 to put a new tank in, if you wanted to put a new tank in.

Teddy:
I got you. Okay. Well, thank you. Let me think about it. I just want to make sure, your number is (732) 965-8035?

Speaker 1:
Yes. That’s our direct line. Yep.

Teddy:
Okay.

Speaker 1:
And your name is?

Teddy:
My name is Teddy.

Speaker 1:
Teddy? Okay. Thank you.

Teddy:
All right. You’re welcome. Thanks.

Tank TV Episode 22 – 64 Ton Soil Remediation Montclair, NJ

 

Welcome to Montclair, New Jersey, where we embark on a day-long journey of a soil remediation project. We encountered a thousand-gallon oil tank plagued by severe leakage. Our mission today is to remove the clean fill and separate it from the contaminated soil beneath. The contaminated soil will be excavated and disposed of at a local disposal facility.

Join us as we witness the meticulous process guided by a subsurface evaluator. With their expertise, we will dig, sample, and assess the soil, striving to reach a clean zone. Once achieved, we will backfill the area with certified clean fill. Our dedicated team will be hard at work for an estimated 8 to 10 hours, expecting to transport anywhere from one to six truckloads of contaminated soil.

Throughout the project, we conduct on-site soil tests. By smelling the soil, we detect any signs of heating oil odor. Additionally, we employ a PID meter to identify volatile organics associated with heating oil. Based on the field screening results, we determine whether to continue excavating or halt the process.

Witness the efficiency of our tri-axle dump truck, capable of carrying up to 26 tons of material. We emphasize the significance of hiring contractors with appropriate equipment. Smaller trucks can hinder progress, leading to extended project durations and increased expenses. Our fleet of tri-axle and tandem dump trucks ensures swift soil removal, keeping costs manageable.

As we conclude this job, admire the completed area adorned with meticulously laid seated hay. The property owner, preparing to sell, eagerly awaits the final paperwork, known as the remedial action report. Within one week of completing the site work, we guarantee the submission of this report. Upon receiving clean post-excavation samples, the property owner will obtain the coveted “no further action” letter from the NJDP, facilitating the property’s closure.

This project involved the extraction of approximately 64 tons of contaminated soil, which we replaced with an equivalent amount of certified clean fill. Remarkably, we accomplished all these tasks within a single day, surpassing industry standards. The client’s satisfaction is paramount, as their property can proceed towards closure by month-end.

Join us as we celebrate another successful soil remediation project and eagerly prepare for our next project. Experience the efficiency, expertise, and commitment that set us apart in the field of excavation and remediation. Subscribe now to stay updated on our upcoming ventures.